[Flxratd]

these joints would be overkill for me it was just a very good buy if i hadent heard some stories and helped a guy at the badlands who broke two of these on his rigs rear four link and when the rear end kicked out it wiped out his two rear fox shocks and one of his nitro bumps and it took us 2 hours to strap it together and get him back to the trailer.

so it was just the potential savings that had me thinking but im over it now. carnage = dollars and thats not savings.

thanks for the responses again