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dougg01 · 10-17-2011, 01:21 PM

Weak hill...? If timmy is coming back I'd believe he thinks they aren't that easy. Most of the climbs I've seen him do on YouTube are relatively mundane for the biggest part of the run (all things being relative here) and one section that is a booger. A water fall, a ridge, a cut, or something that challenges wheelbase, grip, width, or something that every buggy cannot compensate for. Its rare (for me) to see a climb with multiple hard-fought obstacles throughout the run. So...these are short with no build up to the PITB section and essentially nothing after the PITB section. If they were indeed 'weak' then any number of buggies could have done it by now because not everyone that's tried them have been folks with a rig but no skills or someone with skills, but not the rig to match.

this one could probably be filed under the discrimination I hear about the local ORV parks in general - 'not enough rock' or 'too much dirt and mud'. My boys have had me watch virtually every TC YouTube video and the majority of 'awesome' runs were not on clean rocks with no dirt or mud and most are not 100yd rough-as-a-cob climbs. Most of the waterfall section vids are about the same size as the DTOR obstacles. I'm an armchair wannabe though so my opinion isn't worth .02.

10-17-2011, 01:21 PM	#64
dougg01 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NE Scott County, KY Posts: 39	Weak hill...? If timmy is coming back I'd believe he thinks they aren't that easy. Most of the climbs I've seen him do on YouTube are relatively mundane for the biggest part of the run (all things being relative here) and one section that is a booger. A water fall, a ridge, a cut, or something that challenges wheelbase, grip, width, or something that every buggy cannot compensate for. Its rare (for me) to see a climb with multiple hard-fought obstacles throughout the run. So...these are short with no build up to the PITB section and essentially nothing after the PITB section. If they were indeed 'weak' then any number of buggies could have done it by now because not everyone that's tried them have been folks with a rig but no skills or someone with skills, but not the rig to match. this one could probably be filed under the discrimination I hear about the local ORV parks in general - 'not enough rock' or 'too much dirt and mud'. My boys have had me watch virtually every TC YouTube video and the majority of 'awesome' runs were not on clean rocks with no dirt or mud and most are not 100yd rough-as-a-cob climbs. Most of the waterfall section vids are about the same size as the DTOR obstacles. I'm an armchair wannabe though so my opinion isn't worth .02.