natural bridge

[tjjeepjeep]

Technology plays against us to an extent as well. How many hits would a wheeler on a trail w/a slight grade get versus the drunk guy who does a right turn and goes over trees?

I've said it before...We cannot change everyone's perception of us at once. It's unfortunate and not realistic. But if one persons action or a group of people actions, makes someone stop and think "wow I didn't expect that". Then we've won a smaller battle. Any win, is a victory. Unfortunately some battles are fought in the courtroom, and this is where our sport probably falls short. Not from lack of trying/effort/drive, but it's hard to compete with the funds behind some of our opponents.

I drove to Nat Bridge to attend the Forest Service meetings, because it is important. Then my year took a crap and I haven't been involved much. But I know others still are and that they'd holler if help was needed. This year, we'll see what happens.
<getting off my soapbox now>:o

[KennyTJ]

Harlan County... excellent model, the community wants us there, the local government wants us there, they strive to keep up the trails... anyway it's an awsome model of how the local government/community can prosper from embracing the offroad community.

You never hear about any tree huggers complaining about environmental issues down at Black Moutain????

[carwash]

harlan is private land tho... big difference.

[BIGRAM]

It would be nice to see Slade in controlled recreational environment. I have rode there all my life and there is opportunity for this. Hopefully the government will see the positives that could come from this.

[Bear Chow]

I planned a trip to white's arch last year with my son. We were going to hike there from the campsite next to the creek. Climb down the side with a box of trash bags and do a good clean up. Spending the night under the arch and hiking out the next morning.

That trip got postponed, maybe we'll make it this year. By the way we just got back from Gaitlenberg and did 47 miles in 3 days. My legs are so worn it was hard to press the gas pedal on the drive home.

[BIGRAM]

Originally Posted by Bear Chow

I planned a trip to white's arch last year with my son. We were going to hike there from the campsite next to the creek. Climb down the side with a box of trash bags and do a good clean up. Spending the night under the arch and hiking out the next morning.

That trip got postponed, maybe we'll make it this year. By the way we just got back from Gaitlenberg and did 47 miles in 3 days. My legs are so worn it was hard to press the gas pedal on the drive home.

IF you make the trip this year, let me know and I will drive up(to where I can) and haul the trash out. I know there is an Olds Alero down there but it won't fit in a bag. THat will be a good hike, good luck and thanks for your interest in helping clean up.

[KennyTJ]

Originally Posted by carwash

harlan is private land tho... big difference.

Isn't it owned by Harlan County??? aside from Black Moutain trails???

[Jordandg]

harlan has a lease with the private land owners i believe

[carwash]

Originally Posted by Jordandg

harlan has a lease with the private land owners i believe

correct, at least that's what i have been led to believe.

[HumminNBoatin]

Only a couple of small portions are owned privately. Most of actual park is owned by the county. However the park is surrounded buy private property with trails as well. I was just talking to the park manager Brandon Goins about his last week as I am putting together a HUMMER Event there next month.