toyota

tree_bashed_sammy · 09-03-2013, 10:23 PM

i have a toyota pick up im straight axleing puttin chromollys front and rear. It has a 327 motor 350 turbo transmission and toyota transfer case. I bought a transfer doubler kit the 4.70 transfer case gears 529 rearend gears and i plan to run 38 to 44 inch tires now im bein told that id be geared way to low so i was wondering your alls opinions and what u all think i should do and or what combo i should run? thanks for any opinions thanks David

Runoveru2 · 09-03-2013, 10:57 PM

I'm running stock 4 cylinder with dual cases with 2.28 in each case with 5.29 gears running 39.5 tires and love my gearing, having a lower gear in 1 of the cases would be even better selection of gearing. With you having double the power I really can't see where you can go wrong with the gearing. Just my opinion...

WrenchMonkey · 09-03-2013, 11:59 PM

Assume on 40s, it won't see much if any street time?

If all you're doing is crawling, no street, no mud, then yeah, I think its hard to have too much gear...

Robert

blazerbrad · 09-04-2013, 08:09 AM

Keep in mind that the 327 should have at least twice the torque of the stock 22R so you really can't compare the gearing of other Toyota rigs with the 4 banger. I've wheeled quite a bit with several Toyotas setup with various gears and such including one guy that had a stockish 350 that originally had the stock 'yota 5 speed and t-case with 4.10 gears and 34" tires. When he went to the 350 it made a world of difference in how the thing could crawl and lug as he doubled the torque output to the tires (about the same as the difference between high range and low range when you look at total torque output). He eventually swapped to a TH350, NP205 (less gearing than stock t-case), and 4.88 axle gears with 38's. It wasn't setup for hardcore rockcrawling but for typical midwest trailrides it had decent crawling ability.

I think the combination of the doubler with one case at 4.7 and the 5.29 axle gears gives you a low-low range that is not really practical/needed for anything considering you have a V-8 and auto. That puts you over 140:1 not even taking into account the torque converter multiplication (there is some debate over this but it should at least double the gearing at certain times, so that puts you at almost 300:1 effective gearing).

Assuming you are keeping the Toyota axles, so good luck keeping them together with the V-8, 44" tires, and ultra-low gearing.

WrenchMonkey · 09-04-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blazerbrad

Assuming you are keeping the Toyota axles, so good luck keeping them together with the V-8, 44" tires, and ultra-low gearing.

Good point. I was just thinking about drivability, but you'll have to consider longevity too..

tree_bashed_sammy · 09-05-2013, 10:26 PM

when i bought this stuff i had a truck with 4 cylinder and all stock and my plans was to fix it up but i had the one with the v8 and the frame broke on it so i decided to it since im 4 linking the rear so was just wondering peoples opinions on what direction to go. im thinking maybe the 4.7 with single case and stock 410 gears and see how that works for me

blazerbrad · 09-06-2013, 07:56 AM

That should give you a pretty decent crawling ratio and also be able to hit 2nd gear in the trans if you need more wheel speed. In my opinion spending money on the t-case gears is the right place for something you are mainly concerned with off-performance on as they make a much bigger difference than axle gears. 4.10's aren't the optimal pavement gears for that size tires but they will get you by.

twiztedzuki · 09-06-2013, 07:46 PM

you will blow them yota cases apart if you have a heavy foot, and 5.29s pushing it with v8 also

mckeddie · 09-06-2013, 10:17 PM

Your going to break all kinds of stuff w those tires and motor through Toyota stuff.

09-03-2013, 10:23 PM	#1
tree_bashed_sammy just a good ol boy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: dayton ohio Posts: 76	toyota i have a toyota pick up im straight axleing puttin chromollys front and rear. It has a 327 motor 350 turbo transmission and toyota transfer case. I bought a transfer doubler kit the 4.70 transfer case gears 529 rearend gears and i plan to run 38 to 44 inch tires now im bein told that id be geared way to low so i was wondering your alls opinions and what u all think i should do and or what combo i should run? thanks for any opinions thanks David

09-03-2013, 10:57 PM	#2
Runoveru2 Adrenaline Junkie - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 702 Images: 168	I'm running stock 4 cylinder with dual cases with 2.28 in each case with 5.29 gears running 39.5 tires and love my gearing, having a lower gear in 1 of the cases would be even better selection of gearing. With you having double the power I really can't see where you can go wrong with the gearing. Just my opinion... __________________ No need for a Winch...You just have to make it !!

09-03-2013, 11:59 PM	#3
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Assume on 40s, it won't see much if any street time? If all you're doing is crawling, no street, no mud, then yeah, I think its hard to have too much gear... Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

09-06-2013, 07:46 PM	#8
twiztedzuki Join Date: May 2008 Location: Waverly ohio Posts: 586	you will blow them yota cases apart if you have a heavy foot, and 5.29s pushing it with v8 also __________________ SMITH BUILT PERIOD

09-06-2013, 10:17 PM	#9
mckeddie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: van wert oh Posts: 583	Your going to break all kinds of stuff w those tires and motor through Toyota stuff. __________________ zuk buggy.....it'll be a jeep eventually.

09-04-2013, 08:09 AM	#4
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	Keep in mind that the 327 should have at least twice the torque of the stock 22R so you really can't compare the gearing of other Toyota rigs with the 4 banger. I've wheeled quite a bit with several Toyotas setup with various gears and such including one guy that had a stockish 350 that originally had the stock 'yota 5 speed and t-case with 4.10 gears and 34" tires. When he went to the 350 it made a world of difference in how the thing could crawl and lug as he doubled the torque output to the tires (about the same as the difference between high range and low range when you look at total torque output). He eventually swapped to a TH350, NP205 (less gearing than stock t-case), and 4.88 axle gears with 38's. It wasn't setup for hardcore rockcrawling but for typical midwest trailrides it had decent crawling ability. I think the combination of the doubler with one case at 4.7 and the 5.29 axle gears gives you a low-low range that is not really practical/needed for anything considering you have a V-8 and auto. That puts you over 140:1 not even taking into account the torque converter multiplication (there is some debate over this but it should at least double the gearing at certain times, so that puts you at almost 300:1 effective gearing). Assuming you are keeping the Toyota axles, so good luck keeping them together with the V-8, 44" tires, and ultra-low gearing.

09-05-2013, 10:26 PM	#6
tree_bashed_sammy just a good ol boy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: dayton ohio Posts: 76	when i bought this stuff i had a truck with 4 cylinder and all stock and my plans was to fix it up but i had the one with the v8 and the frame broke on it so i decided to it since im 4 linking the rear so was just wondering peoples opinions on what direction to go. im thinking maybe the 4.7 with single case and stock 410 gears and see how that works for me

09-06-2013, 07:56 AM	#7
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	That should give you a pretty decent crawling ratio and also be able to hit 2nd gear in the trans if you need more wheel speed. In my opinion spending money on the t-case gears is the right place for something you are mainly concerned with off-performance on as they make a much bigger difference than axle gears. 4.10's aren't the optimal pavement gears for that size tires but they will get you by.