Rush September 2nd -4th

Runoveru2 · 08-10-2016, 11:56 AM

Time to get back out to with Core at Rush Offroad and beat on your junk for the last time for 2016.

I currently have a few repairs that have to made in order to make this trip, it would take a miracle to get everything complete in time with my current insane schedule.

I know Kevin had a Tranny issue he is looking into along with a rear broken leaf spring

I know Jim Busch said he would not be able to make this Trip.

I know Mark is looking to get his new rear axle installed, I doubt this will keep em from going.

It's a good possibility a few of us will have our repairs complete before this trip.

So who all is in ?

Going: Jim C Runoveru2
Kevin 93 Krawler
Mark Waffle (As long as Sunfire gets Rig togther)
Zack Smiddy24
Jeff. Jeepmanjeff
Robert WrenchMonkey Sat-Sun
Chris. Cvaske. Fri - Sun
Brad. Blazerbrad (Out due to Wife's birthday)

93 Krawler · 08-10-2016, 12:24 PM

I'll be there with something...

Smiddy24 · 08-10-2016, 01:16 PM

I would like to make it out there, but all depends on my dads schedule.

-Zach

blazerbrad · 08-10-2016, 05:15 PM

No football games that weekend so a chance I could make it.

Drivermod · 08-10-2016, 05:26 PM

I'd love to go but will be on my way to Moab.

Runoveru2 · 08-11-2016, 12:54 AM

Got my propane issue fixed today, that will put me 1 step closer to making Rush trip, for those of you that Run Propane or plan too...If you loose the plug for your idle adjustment cap I PROMISE dirt and misc crap will get in there and cause problems even though Got propane said it wouldnt. The Major dust at Harlan or Windrock or wherever you may go is too much and gets into places it shouldn't.

cvaske · 08-11-2016, 08:12 PM

Should be out there Friday, and stay all weekend.

Flint · 08-11-2016, 09:36 PM

I need a checkout run before Slade so I will try to make one day.

WrenchMonkey · 08-12-2016, 01:59 AM

Pencil me in for Saturday morning through Sunday.

jeepmanjeff · 08-14-2016, 03:39 PM

Probable

Flint · 08-14-2016, 08:34 PM

Hope to get a new steering box in by then too.
Any quick comments for a PSC box for a TJ?

93 Krawler · 08-15-2016, 12:33 PM

Trans and spring are good now. I'm ready.

monkeystrong · 08-15-2016, 08:58 PM

I'd like to ride along if someone has an open seat.

93 Krawler · 08-16-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeystrong

I'd like to ride along if someone has an open seat.

Not sure how many seats will be there yet. Its not looking good. Thought you had a sxs of some sort?

Runoveru2 · 08-16-2016, 06:01 PM

My bearing and race for my rear diff won't be in till at least next Monday for my rig, upon fixing broke stud in the rear housing I noticed metal on the drain plug. After inspecting 3rd member I noticed it didn't want to spin the way it should. Took it apart and discovered top pinion bearing race cracked in 2 places. Will try my best to get this thing together, would be nice if I had a day off somewhere between now and Rush.

Runoveru2 · 08-17-2016, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Waffle

Since I've never set up a ring and pinion nor have I ever used the instruments needed to properly set and adjust backlash, I'd be more than happy to learn how using your diff.

Will let ya know when I'm ready, I will be showing my boy and his buddy in the process, I quit using dual indicators years ago and only break it out when I'm setting up a diff that will be run on the street. For Hardcore offroad use you have to setup with the least amount of backlash possible without binding Ring and pinion. This helps keep em from breaking under shock load conditions.

blazerbrad · 08-17-2016, 07:25 AM

Not looking good for me on that weekend as it's my wife's birthday.....don't think she would appreciate me leaving town.

93 Krawler · 08-17-2016, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blazerbrad

Not looking good for me on that weekend as it's my wife's birthday.....don't think she would appreciate me leaving town.

Depends on what you buy her for her b day...

93 Krawler · 08-17-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Runoveru2

Will let ya know when I'm ready, I will be showing my boy and his buddy in the process, I quit using dual indicators years ago and only break it out when I'm setting up a diff that will be run on the street. For Hardcore offroad use you have to setup with the least amount of backlash possible without binding Ring and pinion. This helps keep em from breaking under shock load conditions.

Mine are always to spec, and have never failed. You sure yours aren't getting too hot?

Runoveru2 · 08-17-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 93 Krawler

Depends on what you buy her for her b day...

Runoveru2 · 08-17-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 93 Krawler

Mine are always to spec, and have never failed. You sure yours aren't getting too hot?

No chance of getting hot..ha ha ha!!! This is my last pinion after 10 years of wheeling, 5 of those years were on 39.5..with the style wheeling that we do our gears never spin fast enough for long enough to generate enough heat to expand to cause any damage. This a significant increase in strength in any differential if setup tighter than factory. If I set em to factory specs it will not last long and will break sooner. Changing your diff grease at least 1 time a year and inspecting backlash and metal on plug keeps you aware of what's going on in there.

Runoveru2 · 08-17-2016, 03:30 PM

I have a better picture somewhere of my pinion where it shows all of the stress cracks where all of the teeth are ready to break off, the less contact the gears have "less backlash " the lest contact point the ring and pinion have...but you have to be careful not to cross the line and go too deep and cause binding.

93 Krawler · 08-17-2016, 08:02 PM

I bet they get warm at windrock. That hill is a mother...

blazerbrad · 08-18-2016, 08:14 AM

That's the first time I've heard somebody say to set the gears up tighter than spec for off-road use. Not saying it's wrong or right and understand the theory about the shock loading, but also concerned it could cause other issues. I've always set mine up to factory specs but have also always kept it street legal and therefore need to be able to run down the road at reasonable speed (majority of trails I have ran over the years required some street driving to, or between, trails).....my road speed is only limited by the unbalanced and trail scarred 40" TSL's.

beer_goggles_009 · 08-18-2016, 12:15 PM

I second the "set them up tight" mantra. Drag racers also set them up tight for the same reasons. I ran the gears on my built stock axles set up slightly tighter than spec, setup by a professional who drag raced. They are still around about 7 years (on and off-road use) after initial setup on someone elses rig. And you guys know that I beat the hell out of that set of axles.

08-10-2016, 11:56 AM	#1
Runoveru2 Adrenaline Junkie - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 702 Images: 168	Rush September 2nd -4th Time to get back out to with Core at Rush Offroad and beat on your junk for the last time for 2016. I currently have a few repairs that have to made in order to make this trip, it would take a miracle to get everything complete in time with my current insane schedule. I know Kevin had a Tranny issue he is looking into along with a rear broken leaf spring I know Jim Busch said he would not be able to make this Trip. I know Mark is looking to get his new rear axle installed, I doubt this will keep em from going. It's a good possibility a few of us will have our repairs complete before this trip. So who all is in ? Going: Jim C Runoveru2 Kevin 93 Krawler Mark Waffle (As long as Sunfire gets Rig togther) Zack Smiddy24 Jeff. Jeepmanjeff Robert WrenchMonkey Sat-Sun Chris. Cvaske. Fri - Sun Brad. Blazerbrad (Out due to Wife's birthday) __________________ No need for a Winch...You just have to make it !! Last edited by Runoveru2; 08-23-2016 at 02:33 PM.

08-10-2016, 01:16 PM	#3
Smiddy24 2019 Custom CJ7 Buggy - CORE Member - Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 448 Images: 72	I would like to make it out there, but all depends on my dads schedule. -Zach __________________ You got it"

08-10-2016, 05:26 PM	#5
Drivermod Join Date: May 2009 Location: Union, KY Posts: 225	I'd love to go but will be on my way to Moab. __________________ Ian 06 Toyota 4Runner

08-11-2016, 12:54 AM	#6
Runoveru2 Adrenaline Junkie - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 702 Images: 168	Got my propane issue fixed today, that will put me 1 step closer to making Rush trip, for those of you that Run Propane or plan too...If you loose the plug for your idle adjustment cap I PROMISE dirt and misc crap will get in there and cause problems even though Got propane said it wouldnt. The Major dust at Harlan or Windrock or wherever you may go is too much and gets into places it shouldn't. __________________ No need for a Winch...You just have to make it !!

08-11-2016, 09:36 PM	#8
Flint Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 86	I need a checkout run before Slade so I will try to make one day. __________________ Facta, non Verba. 2001 Wrangler 2000 Wrangler TJ 1967 CJ5A 2004 Tow rig

08-10-2016, 12:24 PM	#2
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	I'll be there with something...

08-10-2016, 05:15 PM	#4
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	No football games that weekend so a chance I could make it.

08-11-2016, 08:12 PM	#7
cvaske - CORE Member - Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 30	Should be out there Friday, and stay all weekend.

08-12-2016, 01:59 AM	#9
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Pencil me in for Saturday morning through Sunday. __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

08-14-2016, 03:39 PM	#10
jeepmanjeff Ah Unz ze President! - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield Ohio Posts: 588 Images: 343	Probable __________________ Keep them on all 4's

08-14-2016, 08:34 PM	#11
Flint Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 86	Hope to get a new steering box in by then too. Any quick comments for a PSC box for a TJ? __________________ Facta, non Verba. 2001 Wrangler 2000 Wrangler TJ 1967 CJ5A 2004 Tow rig

08-15-2016, 12:33 PM	#12
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	Trans and spring are good now. I'm ready.

08-15-2016, 08:58 PM	#13
monkeystrong Señor Monkey Join Date: May 2012 Location: Georgetown, Ohio Posts: 185	I'd like to ride along if someone has an open seat.

08-16-2016, 06:01 PM	#15
Runoveru2 Adrenaline Junkie - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 702 Images: 168	My bearing and race for my rear diff won't be in till at least next Monday for my rig, upon fixing broke stud in the rear housing I noticed metal on the drain plug. After inspecting 3rd member I noticed it didn't want to spin the way it should. Took it apart and discovered top pinion bearing race cracked in 2 places. Will try my best to get this thing together, would be nice if I had a day off somewhere between now and Rush. __________________ No need for a Winch...You just have to make it !!

08-17-2016, 07:25 AM	#17
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	Not looking good for me on that weekend as it's my wife's birthday.....don't think she would appreciate me leaving town.

08-17-2016, 03:30 PM	#22
Runoveru2 Adrenaline Junkie - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 702 Images: 168	I have a better picture somewhere of my pinion where it shows all of the stress cracks where all of the teeth are ready to break off, the less contact the gears have "less backlash " the lest contact point the ring and pinion have...but you have to be careful not to cross the line and go too deep and cause binding. __________________ No need for a Winch...You just have to make it !!

08-17-2016, 08:02 PM	#23
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	I bet they get warm at windrock. That hill is a mother...

08-18-2016, 08:14 AM	#24
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	That's the first time I've heard somebody say to set the gears up tighter than spec for off-road use. Not saying it's wrong or right and understand the theory about the shock loading, but also concerned it could cause other issues. I've always set mine up to factory specs but have also always kept it street legal and therefore need to be able to run down the road at reasonable speed (majority of trails I have ran over the years required some street driving to, or between, trails).....my road speed is only limited by the unbalanced and trail scarred 40" TSL's.

08-18-2016, 12:15 PM	#25
beer_goggles_009 - CORE Member - Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mt Washington Posts: 188	I second the "set them up tight" mantra. Drag racers also set them up tight for the same reasons. I ran the gears on my built stock axles set up slightly tighter than spec, setup by a professional who drag raced. They are still around about 7 years (on and off-road use) after initial setup on someone elses rig. And you guys know that I beat the hell out of that set of axles.