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93 Krawler · 03-06-2018, 02:41 PM

Yes, he broke the pass rear. It broke on steel hill in Harlan. He wasn't really getting on it either. Watch out for low low. It breaks stuff.

I researched this way back and there were like 3 different versions of pinion offset. I believe it's a 2 piece carrier, which if I recall would make it easier to swap to 35 spline. Unless the spiders are welded to the carrier. It sucks that only moly shafts are 32 or 35 spline.

Smiddy24 · 03-06-2018, 06:27 PM

Looks like you need to come out and play with us soon! Next run is April 26th (Rush)

kyrel69 · 03-06-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 93 Krawler

Yes, he broke the pass rear. It broke on steel hill in Harlan. He wasn't really getting on it either. Watch out for low low. It breaks stuff.

I researched this way back and there were like 3 different versions of pinion offset. I believe it's a 2 piece carrier, which if I recall would make it easier to swap to 35 spline. Unless the spiders are welded to the carrier. It sucks that only moly shafts are 32 or 35 spline.

ok,, going to do some checking then,,, might have a line on some upgrade parts if they will fit

kyrel69 · 03-06-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiddy24

Looks like you need to come out and play with us soon! Next run is April 26th (Rush)

we will see if I can get everything done by then,,, I still have to upgrade the stearing now with the 44 think I am going to need a ram to move the tires

Smiddy24 · 03-07-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrel69

we will see if I can get everything done by then,,, I still have to upgrade the stearing now with the 44 think I am going to need a ram to move the tires

Yeah ram and full hydro is what I have on my jeep. It turns 40's like nothing.

kyrel69 · 03-07-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Waffle

Just an fyi, having coarse 23 spline axles means you also have a coarse 10 spline pinion. Not sure if that'll handle 44's and a big block once you get tired of taking it easy.

If you're inclined to upgrade the pinion by replacing the r&p this would be a good option. It's called the Jana 87 mod. This puts Dana 80 gears in a 70 housing, accepts 35 & 37spl shafts and if you can weld a carrier yourself you'll save some coin. I think your spindles will fit 37 spline, but not positive. I'll include a link below or you can google (Jana 87). He doesn't list it (never did) but I believe he still supplies the parts to convert.

Jantz Engineering
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...V2osugDkRkG4eU

thansk,, I will keep this all in mind. Got a buddy with a nother CC dana 70 so going to see if those parts will fit mine so it will be a cheap upgrade

kyrel69 · 03-07-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiddy24

Yeah ram and full hydro is what I have on my jeep. It turns 40's like nothing.

Going to try an ram assist steering with 2in ram and see how that works since I have the ram and just need to buy hoses and tap the steering box and make mounds. Just the steering box move the 38's I had on it with easy so I am hoping the ram will make it work with the 44's

Smiddy24 · 03-07-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrel69

Going to try an ram assist steering with 2in ram and see how that works since I have the ram and just need to buy hoses and tap the steering box and make mounds. Just the steering box move the 38's I had on it with easy so I am hoping the ram will make it work with the 44's

Here's my set up. This is full hydro, orbital valve. You could mount your ram like mine right off the axle housing, then connecting to the steering tie rod. Literally can use one finger to turn my wheels. It's very nice. I got this ram on Ebay, you can get the, at tracker supply though.

kyrel69 · 03-07-2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiddy24

Here's my set up. This is full hydro, orbital valve. You could mount your ram like mine right off the axle housing, then connecting to the steering tie rod. Literally can use one finger to turn my wheels. It's very nice. I got this ram on Ebay, you can get the, at tracker supply though.

What size is your ram?

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Smiddy24 · 03-07-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kyrel69

What size is your ram?

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It's a 2.5" bore x 8" inch stroke.

Smiddy24 · 03-07-2018, 12:29 PM

Here's the back side and how it's mounted. Fairly simple way to mount the ram.

93 Krawler · 03-07-2018, 04:32 PM

I had tapped the steering box on that rig for hydraulic assist but Tim caught a rock going down the trail and bent the shaft in the Box. I didn't tap the new one. You may be able to get away with hydraulic assist depending on what type of terrain you ride in. I would say Forty Fours and lot of rocks May kill the pump sooner. At least you got a Saginaw pump now instead of that Ford junk that was on there.
The Dana 70 might hold up for you depending on your driving Style. We don't know what kind of abuse that axle had taken before Tim got it. That Axel is really old.
The thing always needed better steering and either fuel injection or propane. Never could get the Holly to run right.
I would probably at some point change the stock Spicer joints in the front axle and go with some type of chromoly like a Yukon super joints. I messed up two sets of axles by breaking the Spicer joint so I ended up going with the Yukon super joints. Some say I have an aggressive driving style though.

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Smiddy24 2019 Custom CJ7 Buggy - CORE Member - Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 448 Images: 72	Here's the back side and how it's mounted. Fairly simple way to mount the ram. Attached Thumbnails __________________ You got it"

03-06-2018, 02:41 PM	#26
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	Yes, he broke the pass rear. It broke on steel hill in Harlan. He wasn't really getting on it either. Watch out for low low. It breaks stuff. I researched this way back and there were like 3 different versions of pinion offset. I believe it's a 2 piece carrier, which if I recall would make it easier to swap to 35 spline. Unless the spiders are welded to the carrier. It sucks that only moly shafts are 32 or 35 spline.

03-07-2018, 04:32 PM	#37
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	I had tapped the steering box on that rig for hydraulic assist but Tim caught a rock going down the trail and bent the shaft in the Box. I didn't tap the new one. You may be able to get away with hydraulic assist depending on what type of terrain you ride in. I would say Forty Fours and lot of rocks May kill the pump sooner. At least you got a Saginaw pump now instead of that Ford junk that was on there. The Dana 70 might hold up for you depending on your driving Style. We don't know what kind of abuse that axle had taken before Tim got it. That Axel is really old. The thing always needed better steering and either fuel injection or propane. Never could get the Holly to run right. I would probably at some point change the stock Spicer joints in the front axle and go with some type of chromoly like a Yukon super joints. I messed up two sets of axles by breaking the Spicer joint so I ended up going with the Yukon super joints. Some say I have an aggressive driving style though. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk